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Al Brisco
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From: Toronto, ON Canada

posted 19 February 2004 08:16 PM     profile     
I just took in a Fender Volume Pedal with sideways Tone control.
Can anyone direct me to the correct wiring diagram to have both the volume & tone work.
I can't remember how it should be wired.
Thanks,
Al Brisco
SGC
Smiley Roberts
Member

From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075

posted 19 February 2004 08:21 PM     profile     
Hi Al,
Perhaps Duane Marrs could help you w/ that.
I,too,have a Fender V/T pedal,& Duane repaired it for me.

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Ken Fox
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From: Ray City, GA USA

posted 19 February 2004 08:23 PM     profile     
Al, I sent you two pictures of the wiring and layout and some text about the pedal. That should do it for you.
The old pedals were \originally 250K pots. 500K would suit today's steel pickups better, as 250K is the standard for single coil pickups, while 500K is the standard for humbucking pickups.
Patrick Ickes
Member

From: Upper Lake, CA USA

posted 19 February 2004 09:56 PM     profile     
Ken,
could you send those pictures to me. I have the same pedal and would like to "freshen it up".
Pat
C Dixon
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From: Duluth, GA USA

posted 19 February 2004 10:11 PM     profile     


[This message was edited by C Dixon on 21 February 2004 at 10:32 AM.]

Ken Fox
Member

From: Ray City, GA USA

posted 20 February 2004 10:46 AM     profile     
Those are the same pictures I have. The pots were originally 250K in a Fender, more suited to single coil pickups. I think 500K would be best if rebuilding the pedal, especially for today's humbucking pickups.
Karl Schaefer
Member

From: Marina, California, USA

posted 20 February 2004 02:38 PM     profile     
My thanks to SGF and C. Dixon for the Fender V/T Pedal wiring information. I've got one, and a '58 Q8 Fender Stringmaster with dual pickups (humbucker-type?) to consider.

My last rebuild at 250K never seemed right. I need to go to 500K pots if I understand the information correctly. Could a member please advise if I'm assuming incorrectly.

Are there newer versions of this dual action type of pedal?

Joey Ace
Sysop

From: Southern Ontario, Canada

posted 20 February 2004 06:53 PM     profile     
Scotty has info here: http://www.scottysmusic.com/info/fenderinfo.htm
C Dixon
Member

From: Duluth, GA USA

posted 20 February 2004 08:10 PM     profile     
Karl,

Here is the scoop on value of pots:

1. The smaller the value the less noise the pot is apt to pickup.

2. The higher the value, the less "loading" the pot has on the PU.

As to item #2, remember the full resistance of the pot is in parallel with the PU. So there is alway a loading factor that can change what is coming off the pot. This is why we like to keep the value as high as possible; and yet not so high as to allow extraneous noise to enter in.

The BEST way of all IF you have an amp with an effects loop like a Peavey; is to connect the guitar straight to the amp, Then put the vol/tone control in the effects loop. Then the value is of little concern.

Course Fenders never had this so you are back to trading noise for loading. For me I would settle for some loading to reduce the noise factor. But to each his own.

carl

Karl Schaefer
Member

From: Marina, California, USA

posted 23 February 2004 12:53 PM     profile     
Thank you Carl and to all the SFG members.

I can't believe it! I now have wiring diagrams for my Fender V/T Pedal and my Stringmaster that I never even hoped to see, and, I'm plugging my pedal in where it belongs. It's good to be in the (effects)loop.

Karl

Al Brisco
Member

From: Toronto, ON Canada

posted 23 February 2004 07:31 PM     profile     
Thanks to Ken Fox for the e-mail with the diagrams. I was pretty sure of the wiring, but his diagrams confirmed it.

Best Wishes,
Al Brisco

Patrick Ickes
Member

From: Upper Lake, CA USA

posted 23 February 2004 07:49 PM     profile     
Thanks!

Patrick

C Dixon
Member

From: Duluth, GA USA

posted 26 February 2004 10:00 AM     profile     
For whatever its worth:

Photos: courtesy Russ Weaver

[This message was edited by C Dixon on 26 February 2004 at 10:34 AM.]

[This message was edited by C Dixon on 27 February 2004 at 01:09 PM.]

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